In this very special crossover episode, I'm joined by Austin Suggs from Gospel Simplicity as we host an incredible conversation with Joe Heschmeyer and Dr. Gavin Ortlund on the question of, "Being Deep in History...".

Can a Protestant study the Church Fathers and remain Protestant? What does the Catholic do when they encounter Early Christians who don't sound very Catholic – or Catholic doctrine and dogma that doesn't seem to be found in Early Christianity.

These questions, and many more, are tackled in this sprawling and deeply engaging conversation between two incredibly cordial, articulate, and intelligent Christian thinkers. Austin and I were absolutely blessed to be able to host this conversation.

You can watch this interview on Austin's wildly popular YouTube channel Gospel Simplicity.

For more from Joe visit his website Shameless Popery and check out The Catholic Podcast.

For more from Gavin visit his website and his YouTube channel Truth Unites.

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